Toledo Rockets RB caught shaving points?

**sean1** · 03-30-2007 04:26 PM

And LSU going for 2 up 31? Spread 32

OSU going on 4th down up 30?

Sean

**Objection** · 03-30-2007 04:29 PM

I think the MGM family of books took the games down at one point this year.
Don't know if they ever put them back up

**Kornholio** · 03-30-2007 04:39 PM

Toledo vs. connectucit bowl game a few years ago

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**Illini** · 03-30-2007 04:40 PM

I don't believe that fixing games is a widespread problem. But I do know one thing. The Toledo-UConn Motor City Bowl game was fixed in Dec. 2004. And Gradkowski was in on it.

**ILMW** · 03-30-2007 04:42 PM

Any chance "Gary" was Sadaam Huessein, I mean they said an Iraqi guy?

**sportsfantatic44** · 03-30-2007 04:43 PM

I gave up on that conference last year. Too many shady things going on in those games. This shouldn't be too big of a suprise. I wonder if anything will happen with the Toledo coach.

**gynecologist** · 03-30-2007 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Illini

I don't believe that fixing games is a widespread problem. But I do know one thing. The Toledo-UConn Motor City Bowl game was fixed in Dec. 2004. And Gradkowski was in on it.

Isn't this the game ACE-ACE brags about all the time?

**Illini** · 03-30-2007 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by gynecologist

Isn't this the game ACE-ACE brags about all the time?

Yep, and I watched every play. It was definitely fixed. And there were at least 6-7 guys in on it. Gradkowski was one of them.

**Dr. Know it all** · 03-30-2007 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Where are all the naive naysayers at now that believe everything is on the "up and up?"

This crap at the college level goes on in a lot of places. This dumb bastard just got caught.

They think I'm crazy because I know this stuff happens and at a much higher level than this. No suprise from me at all!

**charliepeete** · 03-30-2007 04:51 PM

I LIVE IN MACOMB COUNTY AND I AM SURE I HAVE SEEN THE 'ARAB' AT THE GREEKTOWN CASINO......................I WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN

**Kornholio** · 03-30-2007 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by gynecologist

Isn't this the game ACE-ACE brags about all the time?

He brags about that? He was lucky to get that info. Lucky. You or I had the pretty much the same access to that info pre-game that Ace got.

**parlayin** · 03-30-2007 04:59 PM

How did he get the info?

**Kornholio** · 03-30-2007 05:07 PM

a poster who knew

**gynecologist** · 03-30-2007 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Journeyman

Against who?

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefoo...60916_CIN@OHST

Game wasn't fixed but spread was anywhere between -28.5 to -30.. OSU kicked a 52yd FG with less than 10 secs left..

**go2guy** · 03-30-2007 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by gynecologist

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefoo...60916_CIN@OHST

Game wasn't fixed but spread was anywhere between -28.5 to -30.. OSU kicked a 52yd FG with less than 10 secs left..

Yep I remember that play vividly.

**MistaFlava** · 03-30-2007 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by gynecologist

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefoo...60916_CIN@OHST

Game wasn't fixed but spread was anywhere between -28.5 to -30.. OSU kicked a 52yd FG with less than 10 secs left..

Tressel only did that to get his kicker some long range attempts...

**bigtendominator** · 03-30-2007 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by MistaFlava

Tressel only did that to get his kicker some long range attempts...

M Flava,

I agree. Tressel is making over. 2 million and he is going to worry about a point spread.

I agree certain games in smaller conferences are easy to fix and couple of them have been fixed. How much are you going to pay Tressel to fix a game 100K? He makes more per game coaching if you count the number of games his team plays.

Tressel, "Sure, I will fix the game. I only have a guaranteed contract making millions and pretty much run the state, but I want to make sure I risk everything I worked for an extra, what say 100K, better make it 50K, 100K maybe to visible"

Give me a break!

Why can people not just except the fact that in gambling the majority of breaks seem to go against you and people on remember when they lose.

Worst lose ever. Robin fuckin Ventura not circling the bases, what did I think he bet the under in the playoffs!

**The Falls** · 03-30-2007 05:57 PM

Many coaches like to keep alums happy....so if there is a chance to cover towards the end of the game....many go for it.

Spurrier!!

Best in recent years was Boise going for two with no time left in their bowl game, against Senneca Wallace and Iowa St, to win by...........................................11!!!

It was a great day.

**Poker King Jim** · 03-30-2007 06:14 PM

Stoops at Oklahoma ALWAYS goes out of his way to cover the spread. Not because they are directly getting paid to do so, but to keep the alumni and the boosters happy - many of whom have money on the game.

You know point shaving happens all the time in college sports. You are a 21 year old kid and will be working at UPS (if you're lucky) in a few months. Some dude offers you 20 dimes to win by 10 instead of 17. How many of you would honestly turn it down?

**Brock Landers** · 03-30-2007 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Illini

Yep, and I watched every play. It was definitely fixed. And there were at least 6-7 guys in on it. Gradkowski was one of them.

what were the circumstances in that game? i vaguely remember it..

**JohnnyMac** · 03-30-2007 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Illini

Yep, and I watched every play. It was definitely fixed. And there were at least 6-7 guys in on it. Gradkowski was one of them.

Gradkowski had a broken hand. He tried to play. He could only throw it about 20 yards. The back up played the majority of the game. I wouldn't put this one in the fix category.

**Jake T.** · 03-30-2007 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by The Falls

Many coaches like to keep alums happy....so if there is a chance to cover towards the end of the game....many go for it.

Spurrier!!

Best in recent years was Boise going for two with no time left in their bowl game, against Senneca Wallace and Iowa St, to win by...........................................11!!!

It was a great day.

Haha I was at that game. Iowa St got pissed and didn't even line up to shake hands. Just left.

**gold64** · 03-30-2007 08:50 PM

I am always trying to be on the right side...

and so are the players...

**MrCleo** · 03-30-2007 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by sean1

And LSU going for 2 up 31? Spread 32

OSU going on 4th down up 30?

Sean

I know which game you are talking about because I had action on it myself, LSU snapper botched it so they picked up the loose ball and tried to make something out of nothing (failing the conversion)...didn't really go for 2.

and OSU going on 4th down up 30? they went for the field goal, not the 1st down. Tressel is a coach that knows what his pointspreads are and I believe (personally) that OSU boosters and alums bet on Buckeyes and he is aware of this.

**ground hog11** · 03-30-2007 09:44 PM

was it the temple-tol game this year.....didnt the spread go down real big all week long and it was a perfect middle....ace-ace bet all those toledo games didnt he?

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